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  • anecdotes/ stories over the years

    As a change of pace seeing as we are coming to the end of the year may I suggest contributors add a story from the past which may not be only educational but humerous and a lighter way to end off a busy year.

    Donderstorm, Im sure you could add a few such as the cover valued at R20,000,000 that was removed !

  • #2
    Hello Seahorsefanatic


    Please do not insult me. The cover that got stolen was priced at 25 Million Rand and not 20 Million Rand.

    Can you imagine this item appearing on the Wednesday Auction?

    I will do a post about this item very soon. I am sure someone would love to hear the story of the highest PRICED item ever stolen in the South African stamp market! Which is obviously also the story of the biggest ever disappointment to some unknown thief.

    Regards

    Jacques
    Philately starts where the catalogue stops.
    Items I have for sale.

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    • #3
      Hi Jacques

      My wife still can't understand why I sold 3 stamps on BoB last month with an apparent cat value of 1.5 million Rand for only 100 bucks. How do I get her to respect my collection after that?

      Regards
      Gabriel1
      Items I have for sale.

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      • #4
        Hello all

        A couple of years ago Stanley Gibbons sold the €œBordeaux Cover€ on auction for £2 500 000-00 - up to then the highest price ever achieved for a philatelic item. At the time the Rand value was 30 Million Rand.

        Some time later, I came across a magnificent and superb facsimile of this cover. Apparently Gibbons produced it and distributed it with a specific issue of the Gibbons Stamp Monthly, which also carried an article on this item.

        Now some of my old friends like the Seahorsefanatic might recall that this facsimile was brilliant. Only under close scrutiny did it become apparent that the item was not genuine. Even the two stamps on the cover were individually produced on paper close to the original issue. And on the backflap of the cover, printed in very small italics, was the word FACSIMILE.

        I paid R25-00 for this cover and had endless fun with it, showing it off and offering it to unsuspecting buyers.

        When the novelty eventually wore off, I decided to sell it. Being in a very generous mood and not demanding an unreasonable profit, I put it on a stockcard and priced it at the bargain price of R25 000 000-00, a clear 5 million below the retail price. I then placed in one of my scratch boxes containing items priced at R150-00 downwards.

        Two weeks later the item was gone! Stolen! Or as Seahorsefanatic put it €“ removed from my stock.

        Not being a vindictive person, I nevertheless hope that the thief flew to London in business class, booked into a top hotel for a night or two and then made a fool of himself trying to sell this cover to some snobbish dealer.

        Or perhaps some poor child (or impatient wife) is waiting for a handsome inheritance.

        At least I can say that the loss of an item priced at R25 000 000-00 did not make a dent in my stock.

        Regards

        Jacques
        Last edited by dstorm; 19-04-10, 21:15.
        Philately starts where the catalogue stops.
        Items I have for sale.

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        • #5
          ANECDOTES/STORIES OVER THE YEARS

          As a youngster in the seventies, collecting was all the rage with stamps, coins etc. Garages also had their attraction with sets that could be collected of tokens,cards etc to get you to bug your parents to go to such and such a garage to fill up.

          One of the promotions that Shell had was called " Man in Flight " which was a collection of 20 metal tokens in the shape of coins which could be displayed in an album. The set commemorated the Wright brothers throuigh to space exploration.

          As kids we used these coins in the pool as buried treasure and would dive for them, trade them with our buddies and debate which was the most valuable token. No doubt the ones we had were the scarcest !!!!!

          I lost most of my tokens except two which I kept all the years in the hope of seeing a set for sale as well as for sentimental reasons. This was probably in the mid seventies about 34 years ago.

          I was at one of Jacques Fairs on the East rand about a year ago and to my amazement their was a broken set for sale still in its album but missing 1 piece. Of course I bought it and rushed home to look for my long lost 2 pieces that I kept. The first one was a duplicate but the second one was the missing piece. What a coincidence. I thought this was remarkable due to all the time that has lapsed since them.

          Goes to show that you should never give up !!!.

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          • #6
            Hi

            I was at a Fair awhile back where John (actually his real name) approached a dealer with a Voortrekker Memorial Fund cover, looking to sell it to him. The only problem was that some child or aspiring artist had coloured in the oxen running down the side of the cover and had included the sun. The dealer for obvious reasons explained that he could not buy the cover due to it's added features. I observed this entire encounter from a distance and the wheels started turning. A month later I approached the dealer and asked him if he had any Voortrekker Mem covers, as he started to reach for his stock I proptly added that I was particularly interested in the "coloured-in oxen and sun variety". I have never seen such a mixture of emotions on a dealers face before (apart from maybe Clinton), shock, suprise, confussion all at once. He started to mumble that he had seen this cover somewhere when I had to reveal that I was winding him up.

            Regards
            Gabriel1
            Items I have for sale.

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            • #7
              I enquired and was offered ( just before the 1995 rugby world cup ) the Coca-Cola competition mail which I thought would be a great challenge. The competition mail weighed about 14 tons and was about 7 million envelopes. It took me about 2 weekends to move it from the promotions office and about 2 years to go through.

              I found many suprises along the way not to mention misperfed and imperf rhino's on cover. My fiancee would be totally confused when phoning me and I would tell her that I was busy " floating rhino's ". She had images of rhino's floating in the pool. These were floated as many had not been cancelled by the post office and could be used again.

              In hindsight I dont think I would take on a project of this size again but enjoyed it immensely. There were thousands of taxed covers where no doubt no tax was collected. Money and all manner of strange items were put in the envelopes by the sender with a view to improving their chance of winning. Items such as coins,photo's, tokens, razor blades, promotional pins, badges, etc.

              One can only wonder what the post office see when they sort tens of thousands of envelopes every day. Competition mail of this size doesnt happen much anymore due to most entries coming via the internet and cellphones.

              Has anyone else who reads this posting ever attempted the above ? I would love to hear what you thought and if you found any treasures.

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              • #8
                Hello David

                14 000kg must take a lot of commitment.

                I once threw about 500 grammes of stamps-on-paper into the bath (not 500 kg and definitely not 14 000kg). That night, when I wanted to take a bath, I removed it all into a bucket. The by then rather thoroughly soaked stamps remained in the bucket for about a week, until they started to give off a strange smell. I then threw the whole lot away.

                That was my largest attempt ever to soak stamps.

                Regards

                Jacques
                Philately starts where the catalogue stops.
                Items I have for sale.

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                • #9
                  Hi

                  I did the same with a couple thousand, no weight taken, I used a large dustbin. In order to press them I used books from all over the house, sometimes when I page through a book I still come across stamps. I also ended up with a dustbin full stamp mush which was also discarded, I swore I would never do it again.

                  Regards
                  Gabriel1
                  Items I have for sale.

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                  • #10
                    Hi Gabriel 1 and D/Storm

                    I had to have a laugh when I read your postings. I floated at least 240,000 uncancelled rhino's and then about 20,000 of the better stamps.

                    This brings me to another story - I had a frantic call from a friend of mine about 10 years ago who had just bought a house in the Midrand area. He told me to come over quick as the existing owner was burning lots of paper in 3 drums and among them were boxes of stamps. He asked the seller to wait for me and not burn any more.

                    When I got there, I learnt that he was going to burn his collection due to a family member of his being caught stealing some of his stamps. I convinced him to rather sell me the remainder ( about 10 shoeboxes ) and he could do what he liked with the money. Rather ash you can spend then ash at the bottom of a drum.

                    All the stamps were in cigarette boxes ( van rhyn ). He was so excited to find some 25 year old cigatrettes in the one box he lit one and was disgusted that the cigarette tasted like s**t - to use the word he used !!

                    The sad thing was that he had already burnt about 15 albums already before I could get there. One can only wonder what went up in smoke that day

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                    • #11
                      Just wondering….

                      What kind of wedding present do you give to a guy who has it all. For instance 7 Million Rhino’s. And a few Thousand Seahorses. Perhaps an Inverted Jenny? No, Moira might misunderstand.

                      Jacques
                      Philately starts where the catalogue stops.
                      Items I have for sale.

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                      • #12
                        Hi Jacques
                        I was thinking Dave would appreciate something much more interesting than mere American stamps with inverted centres for a wedding present.

                        Something like The Connoisseur Catalogue of British Machins or An Introduction To The Pre Postal History Of Outer Mongolia.

                        I will get him one,you can get the other because I am sure he wont be able to choose between the two
                        Cheers
                        Kenny

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                        • #13
                          Hello Kenny

                          You are right!

                          Damn. Hope I can cancel my bid on eBay.

                          And you are right again: I will bet my entire stock that he will not be able to choose between the two.

                          So Machins it will be from my side. “The Unabridged Specialised Single Phosphor Band Machin Catalogue”. I believe it comes in seven volumes. And it covers the period from 1972 to 1973. With 1000’s of colour photo’s.

                          Dave is the kind of person who loves thoughtful presents.

                          Regards

                          Jacques
                          Philately starts where the catalogue stops.
                          Items I have for sale.

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                          • #14
                            Hi there

                            You guys have a warped sense of humour. hahahah To Kenny I will bequeth my Ajman specialised study in 25 volumes and to Jacque my entire holding of unsorted Bophuthatswana Grasses for free ( not even at face less 50% !!!!! ) This will be followed by a crowd of certain people who love to ask for " Discount. Discount ".

                            Kenny thanks for your input on the taxed covers - much appreciated.

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                            • #15
                              OK then…

                              Guess a bottle of wine should do.

                              Regards

                              Jacques
                              Philately starts where the catalogue stops.
                              Items I have for sale.

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