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  • Search Improvements

    Hi All

    There are a number of hints/tips users can use in order to improve your
    search-experience, we have just released several new releases on the search facility -

    Did you mean: We introduced a search recommendation for cases where a user might have misspelled a word or our search-engine suggests
    a better search term:

    Search for ipot, result - Did you mean ipod?

    Dropdown search: Any keyword typed into the "Find"-field will result in an immediate search-suggestion of previously searched items. Typing in
    "ipod nano" will result in search results containing "ipod" and "nano" (position is irrelevant - it will also show "nano ipod")

    Exact search: Typing in a search term in double-quotes will result in an exact result of the whole term.

    Single Wildcard search: The single character wildcard search looks for terms that match that with the single character replaced. For example, to search for "taken" or "token" you can use the "?" to wildcard single characters.

    Search term t?ken, results - taken, token etc.

    Multiple Wildcard search: Same as above, but the "*" will replace a number of characters (in the case below a sequence of
    characters between the "t" and the "k":

    Search term t*k, results - taken, take 2, textbooks etc.

    Fuzzy Search: The wildcard "~" will search for a term similar to the word. If you type in "roam~" it will find terms such as "foam", "road" etc.

    More advanced Searches: A user wanting to search for "Apple IPod" but not being interested in the touch, would for example use the "-" as a filter criteria:

    Search term apple ipod -touch, results - apple ipod, apple ipod nano etc.

    Happy searching!

    Regards
    Cuan

  • #2
    BoB Search "improvements"

    The supposed improvements to the search facility are a pain. Every second response is error.

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    • #3
      Worked fine for me - i used " for a certain ken follett book's title.. gave me the "item not found" response, which is correct as i checked earlier and nobody has that book in stock.
      What's for sale today?

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      • #4
        Hi,

        Is it possible to include closed auctions when searching for an item?

        Kind regards
        Irfaan

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        • #5
          Removed post as techie gave the correct info
          Last edited by Delicious; 30-05-10, 08:31. Reason: Removed post as techie gave the correct info
          What's for sale today?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Lafite View Post
            The supposed improvements to the search facility are a pain. Every second response is error.
            can you explain what type of errors you get? is an error for you a search not finding something or does the system report an error? If so, please provide specifics.

            @Saint786: we do store all closed auctions and a search over those would be possible, but generally at bidorbuy, buyers are more interested in items open for trade.

            we will introduce later on a search-feature for closed items called "find similar" which would then list items for sale which are similar to the closed one.

            Why would you want to search for a closed items? If there is value for buyers/sellers we could certainly introduce this in the advanced search.
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            • #7
              I have noticed that when you type in a certain search word eg: supernatural but leave your cursor/arrow in the empty space then you get something random coming up eg: super sized shoes or whatever, but if you place your cursor/arrow away from the open block what you type in works fine.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by voldermort View Post
                I have noticed that when you type in a certain search word eg: supernatural but leave your cursor/arrow in the empty space then you get something random coming up eg: super sized shoes or whatever, but if you place your cursor/arrow away from the open block what you type in works fine.
                this is quite intentional as we list in the search-box "look-ahead" recommendations. If we detect that you pause typing (i.e. if there is a 250ms delay between keystrokes) we do a lookahead search.

                An example - you want to search for "rugby shoes":
                If you type in "rug" and pause we will list recommendations such as "rug" but also items such as "rugby books". As you finish typing "rugby" the search recommendations get narrowed down to any items with the word "rugby" in it (placement does not matter).

                The same would apply to your "Supernatural"-search. If you stop at "super" you would get "super 14", "superman", "supernatural" etc.

                The recommendations are based on actual searches done by people using BoB and items being found - we felt that this would be a practical/fun addition to allow people to very quickly find items which are popular with other users (and things one did not think of searching before).

                Eventually, as those items become less popular, they will drop out. The term "fifa" did not result in many search recommendations beginning of this year, but rank very high since the beginning of this month (and will drop out come August).

                We will need to do a lot more to make the searches more efficient, but unlike eBay we give our users complete freedom in defining their item-listing (which then also complicates the searches quite a bit).

                If you have specific recommendations/suggestions, please list the in our feedback section, we are always excited about new ideas and will implement those if they make sense/add value to the community.
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                • #9
                  Using a search term like "canon ?0d" doesn't work and neither does "canon *0d" work.
                  Obligatory link to my listings.

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                  • #10
                    And the following still doesn't work correctly:

                    pentax-a ... which return all results containing the words "pentax" and "a";

                    pentax-m ... as above;

                    "pentax-m" ... (placed in double quotes) returns nothing, even though there are such listings.
                    Obligatory link to my listings.

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                    • #11
                      Wait a minute.... the search goodies mentioned in the OP are only used by the AJAX script to generate the recommendations, but not by the actual server-side search programme. Highly frustrating and very half-baked (IMO).
                      Obligatory link to my listings.

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                      • #12
                        And go to Garden & Pets and try searching for pets ... it's a nightmare what comes up!
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                        • #13
                          Hi all,

                          @ MacMuffin - I think this would be helpful especially in the coin section where prices fluctuate all the time. I for one would like to see what prices have been obtained for certain coins in the past, which are currently on auction or for a coin that i would like to put up on auction.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by RISadler View Post
                            Wait a minute.... the search goodies mentioned in the OP are only used by the AJAX script to generate the recommendations, but not by the actual server-side search programme. Highly frustrating and very half-baked (IMO).
                            Completely agree with you on this. The AJAX search was relatively easy to implement as we keep a search history and matching any regular expression is not a problem. For the full-text search this becomes complex as it will run against the Oracle database. Although the server is quite powerful, any regex search against the DB reports poor response time, hence we disabled it for now.

                            Oracle is unfortunately not very good with the text-indexing and searching on regular expressions and doing just a simple search as you mentioned takes over 20 seconds - not the user-experience we want to give anyone.

                            Going forward we will put a proper search-cloud in place and need to revisit quite a few aspects of the search. This has priority, but at the moment we are focusing on some really cool features (long overdue) and then go back to focus on the search.

                            I know, not quite the answer you where looking for, but certainly a task on our (neverending) list of things to do.
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                            • #15
                              Oracle... that explains a lot.
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